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Post by Dell on Mar 19, 2007 8:42:01 GMT -5
Can we get a listing of the treasures of Castle Crag, so we can divide them up on the board? And how many identifies did we do?
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Post by Mr. Trommer on Mar 19, 2007 11:30:50 GMT -5
Is there a final list of the stuff we have at the Hall? i am thinking in terms of magical armor and Dell's contribution to Hugh's getting a new bell for the church for the knot potion.
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Post by Ginger on Mar 19, 2007 11:40:55 GMT -5
The stuff in the Hall was posted a few weeks ago, along with some questions I had about the coins and the armor. For those too lazy to click over there, we have in the Hall coins from the Jarl's chamber which can now be identified as coming from the Vally of the Mage.
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Post by Mr. Trommer on Mar 19, 2007 14:57:48 GMT -5
I will spend those, the frost giant and the fire giant ones. Trithereon only cares that it be gold. That gives me 18,000 gp in spending money. I can get Hugh a really big bell for that without conversion costs.
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Post by Dead Greyhawk on Mar 19, 2007 20:11:23 GMT -5
Can we get a listing of the treasures of Castle Crag, so we can divide them up on the board? And how many identifies did we do? Yes. I believe you used up all of your pearls, plus the 5 pearls found in the treasure. |
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Post by Dead Greyhawk on Mar 19, 2007 20:50:09 GMT -5
Stuff at the HallHere's what I have written down as stored at the Hall of the Blue Sun Coins4845 Sterich CP 34372 Sterich SP 13146 Sterich EP 5444 Sterich GP 1966 Sterich PP 3000 Unknown Origin GP (glowing staff and river valley mint) 3800 Unknown Origin PP (mace and female head on spider body mint) 3000 Fire Giantish GP (Giantish Sword and Armored Chest mint) 260 Free Copper 7622 Free Silver 3316 Free Electrum 1260 Free Gold 197 Free Platinum 11304 Frost Giantish GP (Giantish Face and Axe mint) 18000 Geoffish SP 4330 Geoffish EP 742 Geoffish PP Total Face Value of Coinage, assuming no conversion costs or devaluation: approx. 70954 Items100 Pound of Mithril Containing Ore 1 A naturally shaped piece of reddish-purple amethyst (5,000 gp base value) which resembles a toad 1 A Silver Bear Statue with Topaz Eyes and Ruby Fangs 1 a treaty scroll signed with the seal of the Jarl (two axes crossed behind a rearing polar bear pressed into blue wax) and offering the Lord of Ogre Magi Tuala Makar 100,000 GP value in gems, plus whatever loot his minions garner, if they will join the war upon mankind in this territory 1 alabaster statue of a nude woman on horseback (4,000 GP value). 1 Amber flask of Perfume (100 GP) 1 Brown Bear Cloak 1 Cave Bear Cloak 1 Diamond Earring (350 GP) 8 Eight 1 cubic foot, silver, boxes 17 Gold armbands with an inset ivory and amber bear (jewelry value 2,000 gp, damaged value 700 gp). 1 Gold Belt Buckle (75 GP) 1 Gold Orc Head Necklace (500 GP) 1 Mammoth Hide Cloak 1 Opal Jeweled Necklace (3,000 GP) 1 Orcish Banner of the pus-dripping eye 1 Otter Fur Cloak 1 White marble statue of a bound woman 1 White marble statue of a female elven singer with a mandolin 1 White marble statue of a laughing dwarf drinking from a mug 1 White marble statue of a man clad in armor with a shield 1 White marble statue of a praying robed man 1 White marble statue of a reclining nude man 1 White marble statue of a young boy 1 Wof Hide Cloak 1 Field plate armor, human sized 1 platinum jeweled crown with sapphires rubies and emeralds 2 Ringmail +1
1 Halberd +1
1 Splintmail +1
4 Chainmail +1
1 Chainmail +2
1 Chainmail vest +2
2 Platemail +1Gems6 cubic foot of ivory chunks 50 Uncut Quartz (1 GP each) 1900 Uncut rock crystals (1 GP base value uncut gems) I'll email Lee a copy of the chest asset list, with totals including Castle Crag, and James a copy of the box asset list, with totals including Castle Crag.
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Post by Ginger on Mar 19, 2007 21:51:11 GMT -5
Blue with Red Stripe and Gold Crescent Shield +1
Mold Crusted Metal Flask with Potion of Extra Healing
Footman's Mace +4, Defender
Brass Ring of Swimming
Footman's Flail +2
Scimitar +1
Morning Star +2
Splintmail (large) +2
Broadsword +1
Wand of Dig, Passwall, and Move Earth
Stone Horse Figurine
Green Potion of Superheroism
Xray Ring
I don't really know what to do here. I'll assume that Al wants the potion of superheroism, since it'll give him the most bang for his buck. Jasper could use the ring of x-ray vision, since he's a great scout, and all of his other items were fried. I don't know who wants the Defender. Maybe Adrienne should take it and trade the Pick to someone.
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Post by Wolfgar on Mar 20, 2007 8:05:30 GMT -5
Does Winthrop recognize the heraldry associated with the shield? Did we get this off of the lead priest? Might be more indication of association between giants and the ruling families in Keoland.
Otto will take the scimitar for Herbert unless Diego (who I believe is still proficient in scimitar) wants it.
Do we know if illusionists can use the wand? Is there a list of the Unearthed Arcana wands they can use?
Did we get a full description of the stone horse? Have we tried activating it?
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 8:30:39 GMT -5
We haven't tried activating the horse, but we got a full description and command word. The write-up in UA isn't entirely clear, but it's a horse that never tires and can fight reasonably well. The only problem is that you cannot heal it. It has to graze for a day to regain each hit point.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 9:38:13 GMT -5
Here's the first draft:
Adrienne - Morning Star
Perrin - Mace
Jasper - X-Ray ring
Raven - Swimming ring
Diego - Splintmail
Al - Superheroism
Hugh - Stone Horse
Winthrop - Flail
Otto - Scimitar
Tony - Extra Healing Potion.
Pfiffwin - Wand
+1 broadsword and shield still up for grabs.
The wand is usable by any character class, so if Pfiffwin isn't allowed to use it as an illusionist, he can use it as a thief. I like the idea of him digging pits and then covering them with illusions
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Post by Mr. Trommer on Mar 20, 2007 9:52:47 GMT -5
Winthrop doesn't want anything from this lot stuff. I should point out there are two rings of swimming. The one Hugh is wearing wasn't officially allocated yet.
Hugh is interested in the horse and the +4 Mace. He would forgo the strike of retribution he gets with a broadsword in order to hit things more often and he likes to take care of summon creatures.
Speaking for Grizela in case she returns the Flail would suit her nicely.
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Post by Perrin on Mar 20, 2007 12:11:47 GMT -5
I'm certainly interested in the mace. I think it's a great addition to my collection of +4 gear... also I'm already trained with the weapon.
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Post by venger on Mar 20, 2007 12:23:31 GMT -5
Yay, a mold-crusted metal flask...
How about that ton of monetary treasure?
Being a magic-user is prohibitively expensive.
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 12:26:11 GMT -5
Have we left the castle yet? I just remembered a few loose ends to tie up. I don't think we ever inventoried the stuff under the evil statue in the temple or took the HUGE MITHRIL SLAB which was worth a fortune.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 13:26:49 GMT -5
Yay, a mold-crusted metal flask... Given the amount of times that you asked to be healed, I thought it would be the item you would get the most use out of. And don't worry, your monetary needs will be taken care of. Our leader will see to that. |
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Post by venger on Mar 20, 2007 14:17:40 GMT -5
Given the amount of times that you asked to be healed, I thought it would be the item you would get the most use out of. And don't worry, your monetary needs will be taken care of. Our leader will see to that. Now when I ask for healing I'll be told- "just drink your potion." I also receive the "I visited Castle Crag and all I got was this lousy mold-crusted metal flask" t-shirt. |
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 14:36:43 GMT -5
Use some clean cantrips to get a shiny metal flask.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 15:11:59 GMT -5
Taking all your suggestions into account (and ignoring them), the revision.
Adrienne - Morning Star
Perrin - Defender Mace, Superheroism
Jasper - X-Ray ring
Raven - Swimming ring
Diego - Splintmail, +1 Shield
Al - Biting Swim Ring
Hugh - Stone Horse
Grizela - Flail
Otto - Scimitar
Tony - Extra Healing Potion
Pfiffwin - Wand, Broadsword
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Post by Mr. Trommer on Mar 20, 2007 15:14:06 GMT -5
Ah, yes apprentice you must know that the cost of spells are very expensive. I'm sure that you didn't expect that we, Dell and I, as power hungry mages would just give away our spells. They cost money and as you said being a mage is very expensive. Now that Dell has obtain a more enlightened level of magic ability his costs go up as well. So I'm sure that you can see that your "share" of the "monetary" assets might be shall we say less than what you think you might think right as Dell and mine might be more (okay and Raven's since he chipped in some). So what you should really wish for is that we clear out karmul's tower since there hopefully will be spell books. You would likely jave a good opportunity to get the ones with spells of you current power.
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 15:30:00 GMT -5
Grizela needs a +1 shield more than Diego, who already has a better magic shield. With a +1 shield and +1 plate, she'd be much more able to survive.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 15:31:32 GMT -5
Now when I ask for healing I'll be told- "just drink your potion." You've got three drinks worth of potion in there, so don't use it all up at once. |
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Post by venger on Mar 20, 2007 15:59:22 GMT -5
Ah, yes apprentice you must know that the cost of spells are very expensive. I'm sure that you didn't expect that we, Dell and I, as power hungry mages would just give away our spells. They cost money and as you said being a mage is very expensive. Now that Dell has obtain a more enlightened level of magic ability his costs go up as well. So I'm sure that you can see that your "share" of the "monetary" assets might be shall we say less than what you think you might think right as Dell and mine might be more (okay and Raven's since he chipped in some). So what you should really wish for is that we clear out karmul's tower since there hopefully will be spell books. You would likely jave a good opportunity to get the ones with spells of you current power. As no one has been particularly forthcoming in regards to the company's policy pertaining to the distribution of treasure, I suppose the question then is: how much less than an equal share do I receive? Whatever that share is, I'm happy to parley it into needed magical accoutrements like spellbooks/magical ink and future training. I cannot, however; accept vague assurances that it'll "be covered" and then made to feel beholden to the party for what meager scraps you decide to give me, whenever you see fit to dole them out. If you feel you already have too many magic-users in the group and there isn't a realistic opportunity for a new one to be prosperous- or if Antonus isn't valued or liked by the Company- he will simply leave. (I'll roll up a fighter or something.) |
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 16:00:35 GMT -5
Grizela needs a +1 shield more than Diego, who already has a better magic shield. With a +1 shield and +1 plate, she'd be much more able to survive. Good catch! I thought there were shields for her back at Longspear, but the list says otherwise. No wonder you're the leader. The third iteration of the splitlist: Adrienne - Superheroism Perrin - Defender Mace +4 Jasper - X-Ray ring Raven - Swimming ring Diego - Splintmail Al - Biting Swim Ring, Morning Star +2 Hugh - Stone Horse Grizela - Flail +2, Shield +1 Otto - Scimitar +1 Tony - Extra Healing Potion Pfiffwin - Wand, Broadsword +1 Reasonings: Adrienne - I just want her to get to roll for more hitpoints. Perrin - I think he needs a good weapon more than Hugh does. Jasper - For better sneaky scouting. Raven - Because he nearly drowned twice in one day. Diego - For the captain of his troops. Or for himself, when his regular armor detonates. Al - He regenerates, so the bite damage is irrelevant. Also, he lost a +2 weapon, so he needs another. Hugh - He asked. Grizela - A fighter needs Magic Armor, Shield, and Weapon. Otto - for his minions. Tony - He doesn't enjoy walking around half dead like most of the party does. Pfiffwin - I like the idea of a pit hidden by an illusion, and I really want to see Pfiffwin backstab someone with a sword taller than he is. |
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Post by Mr. Trommer on Mar 20, 2007 16:16:17 GMT -5
As Chairman of the Board I approve this message...allocation...distribution.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 16:20:00 GMT -5
As no one has been particularly forthcoming in regards to the company's policy pertaining to the distribution of treasure, I suppose the question then is: how much less than an equal share do I receive? Actually, under the company by-laws, at your current level of experience you would recieve a full share - as well as 500 or 600 gp per month. However, a not-insignificant amount of money goes into what's known as the "Company Fund" - a pool used to purchase things of benefit to the group as a whole, like horses, boats and training. Since there is a lot of training coming up, the share of funds going into this group account will be larger, and so your individual award may be smaller than expected - but since magical supplies are a group need, the inks, spellbooks, and pearls for identification will also be purchased from this group account. Essentially, while you may only get a few thousand gold, you won't have anything to spend it on except for ale and sleepers. And a Cure Disease the morning after... you know, because of the sleepers. |
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 16:29:23 GMT -5
Basically, we don't take our funds individually and instead live large off the "company funds." I think it's a tax write off, or something complicated, but we were advised to do it by our accountants and lawyers.
Another reason we do this is so that magic users, who are smart and have huge costs, can take money from the fighters, who don't have any expenses. Just say "Hey, I need company funds to buy spellbooks and inks" and you'll get Jasper sent off to carry a ton of gold to buy stuff with you.
We could probably also use some sort of dividend system where everyone got 3000 GP when we got to town to spend or save as they see fit.
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Post by venger on Mar 20, 2007 18:05:38 GMT -5
Basically, we don't take our funds individually and instead live large off the "company funds." I think it's a tax write off, or something complicated, but we were advised to do it by our accountants and lawyers. Another reason we do this is so that magic users, who are smart and have huge costs, can take money from the fighters, who don't have any expenses. Just say "Hey, I need company funds to buy spellbooks and inks" and you'll get Jasper sent off to carry a ton of gold to buy stuff with you. We could probably also use some sort of dividend system where everyone got 3000 GP when we got to town to spend or save as they see fit. So all the treasure we found is put into a "company fund" that will provide for my training, spellbooks and magical ink? I just have to ask? And then I will further receive a personal distribution of that treasure to spend on other things, like new spells and basic equipment? ... Can't be expected to live off handouts forever. -- About magic items- what, if any, future considerations are made for those that don't get "choice" items on a particular adventure? In other words, is there a limit to how many times someone will get the +1 weapon or mold-crusted metal flask before they are entitled to something decent? Without useful items (protective bracers, rings, damaging wands, etc.) memorizing party-enhancing spells (strength, run, etc.) isn't feasible. Not when one's Armor Class is entirely dependent on keeping a Shield spell up. |
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Post by Ginger on Mar 20, 2007 18:57:34 GMT -5
We just count on all the loot to balance out over time. Sometimes people get shafted for a few dungeons in a row. It happens to everyone. Whenever we get a really big score and there are several items per person, we can balance out previous inequities.
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Post by Dell on Mar 20, 2007 21:15:39 GMT -5
About magic items- what, if any, future considerations are made for those that don't get "choice" items on a particular adventure? In other words, is there a limit to how many times someone will get the +1 weapon or mold-crusted metal flask before they are entitled to something decent? Note that Winthrop and Dell didn't take a distribution at all this time. My assumption is that the portion of the treasure that would have been useful to magic users flew away with the naga. As we are generally of Good alignments (at least in theory), the company's item distribution is primarily based on what's best for the group as a whole (at least in theory). |
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Post by venger on Mar 20, 2007 21:17:16 GMT -5
I will trust the party's judgement.
And I only question so thoroughly to set for myself reasonable expectations, I don't mean to come across as, um, avaricious..
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