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Post by Ginger on May 6, 2018 11:31:59 GMT -5
The rules for writing scrolls are pretty straightforward and we should use them more.
"An item has a creation cost specified in the Crafting Magic Items table (half that cost for a consumable, such as a potion or scroll). A character engaged in the crafting of a magic item makes progress in 25 gp increments, spending that amount for each day of work until the total cost is paid. The character is assumed to work for 8 hours each of those days. Thus, creating an uncommon magic item takes 20 days and 500 gp. You are free to adjust the costs to better suit your campaign."
That means a 1st level spell costs 50 GP and 2 days work. Multiple characters can contribute, so Ren and Eustace could do it in just 8 hours work together. 2nd or 3rd level spells are 10 days and 250 GP. For utility spells that could be really helpful in the right circumstances.
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Post by Ren on May 7, 2018 20:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by Ren on May 7, 2018 20:41:12 GMT -5
meant where did your quote come from. |
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Post by Ginger on May 7, 2018 20:49:34 GMT -5
I was just quoting the DMG section on crafting magic items, also combining it with the DMG explanation for the spell scroll magic items.
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Post by Ginger on May 8, 2018 7:56:33 GMT -5
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Post by Ren on May 9, 2018 14:47:02 GMT -5
Ok. So it turns out I hate all the official guidance for magic items. It takes 4 weeks to scribe a fireball? Screw that noise. I guess what I found originally was maybe somebody’s house rules. Can we maybe take a vote to ignore WotC draconian attitude against magic items? I’m strongly in favor of adapting the rules I found in the link I posted. If no one else wants to go that way (or if Ed vetos), then I guess I’ll deal with it. Poorly. With lots of sulking.
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Post by Bolo on May 9, 2018 15:45:42 GMT -5
I like the idea of carrying a few low-level utility spells on scrolls -- ones that might be useful every now and then, but not so often that we're likely to keep them prepared. Arcane Lock, for example, which Eustace used in the last session, although the reason he had that on a scroll was that he hadn't ever copied it into his spellbook, so now he doesn't have access to it to make a replacement scroll. Or Knock, which Eustace knows, but generally doesn't prepare. As well as being potentially useful, this might give us opportunities to use a wider variety of spells.
I also like the idea of carrying one or two higher-level emergency spells on scrolls, like maybe Teleportation Circle for a "get us the heck out of here" situation. That's another one that we're unlikely to keep prepared all the time, and even if we did, we wouldn't necessarily want to have to save a 5th level slot for it, just in case of need.
I am less convinced that it makes sense to carry scrolls of mid-level spells like Fireball that we use all the time. But maybe. BTW, if Ren scribes a Fireball scroll, can the spell be shaped around non-targets, even if someone else uses the scroll, or only when Ren he casts it in person?
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Post by Ginger on May 9, 2018 18:57:56 GMT -5
It’s only 10 days for a Fireball, since scrolls are half. Keep in mind that 3 casters can combine, so that’s just 4 days.
I agree that it’s a huge commitment for a big spell, but, with our new teleport abilities, maybe spending more downtime on the message board will work. Ginger is proficient with smithing tools and tinker tools, so maybe we can make some cool stuff.
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Post by Ren on May 10, 2018 7:39:20 GMT -5
I like the idea of carrying a few low-level utility spells on scrolls -- ones that might be useful every now and then, but not so often that we're likely to keep them prepared. Arcane Lock, for example, which Eustace used in the last session, although the reason he had that on a scroll was that he hadn't ever copied it into his spellbook, so now he doesn't have access to it to make a replacement scroll. Or Knock, which Eustace knows, but generally doesn't prepare. As well as being potentially useful, this might give us opportunities to use a wider variety of spells. I also like the idea of carrying one or two higher-level emergency spells on scrolls, like maybe Teleportation Circle for a "get us the heck out of here" situation. That's another one that we're unlikely to keep prepared all the time, and even if we did, we wouldn't necessarily want to have to save a 5th level slot for it, just in case of need. I am less convinced that it makes sense to carry scrolls of mid-level spells like Fireball that we use all the time. But maybe. BTW, if Ren scribes a Fireball scroll, can the spell be shaped around non-targets, even if someone else uses the scroll, or only when Ren he casts it in person? scrolls and magic items allow the user to cast the spell, so no transfer of abilities. On the plus side, you can use your abilities on items you use, so Ren can sculpt with the staff of frost. |
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Post by Ginger on May 10, 2018 7:50:34 GMT -5
Likewise, having Transmutation scrolls at the ready would let Eustace change the properties of his Transmutation stone on the fly.
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